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Gay Quaker Parrots
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So that we can stop taking over that metaquotes thread 
23rd-Jul-2005 06:58 pm
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Welcome all. This community is very young and we haven't thought everything out yet, so suggestions for user info and so forth are most welcome. Does anyone have any ideas for a background, especially those of you with Photoshopping skills? Something from a classical painting, perhaps? The beauteous icon is courtesy of azdaja_dafema.

Don't feel that this comm is sacred to quoting alone, feel free to post two lines and then a nice little essay on why X is obviously madly in love with Y.

Oh yes, intros, rather nice things. I'm currently having a year off between my undergrad and my postgrad, and I'm doing English Lit. I'm fairly well known for reading queer subtext into just about anything.
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23rd-Jul-2005 06:18 pm (UTC)
To azdaja_dafema in continuation of our previous converation:

Not bothered about favouritism, we've got the parrot/s in the icon so it's not like everyone will have to have Achilles and Patroclus coming up on their Friends pages all the time, like you get Pamela and Mr B for 18th_c_writing. What do you mean by coding? elfbystarlight is the one around here who knows more about computers and such, though I've designed some rather pretty abstract layouts in my time.
23rd-Jul-2005 06:31 pm (UTC)
I meant the Layout coding, to go with the background image, usually the colour schemes tend to match or compliment each other in some way.

I could do a random selection of different character pairings, a bit like on my lj, although perhaps not the photo strips. Or simply have a simple abstract gradient.
23rd-Jul-2005 06:25 pm (UTC) - introducing self
Hola! Yo soy Dee Leit!
I've graduated from University and while there fell in love with "queering" all the lit that I read, as a Theatre Major in a Liberal Arts school.
I took all of the GLBT classes I could, including lit classes tought by the G:BT studies professor in which we discussed gay Shakespeare, gay Poe, and gay Batman (yes, Batman).
I would like to point out that it was my English Lit Professor who intorduced me to slash, and I wrote a Dupin slash as a final in her World Lit class. I passed.

So... I'm going to run off and grab some good Poe to quote at ya with the slashy goodness.
23rd-Jul-2005 06:26 pm (UTC)
Yes. *salutes* I have photoshop and am not afraid to use it. :P Ditto coding ness. What kinda colours would you like? *lays down sword mouse and HTML for the cause*

Intro. Doing GCSEs at the moment, but wishing to continue English Lit, and possibly Latin. Queer subtext is something I enjoy immensely, both in finding and discussing it.
23rd-Jul-2005 06:31 pm (UTC)
Find a suitable picture first and then we can work round that, I reckon. How do you design a scheme for someone else to copy, should I just use my initiative for the colours after you tell me which layout to use?

I keep forgetting that LJ is largely populated by people a decade younger than me. Is there some kind of rule such as the older you are, the worse at dealing with computers you are? Bet you anything you like that my parents are far worse than yours, for instance.

Latin A-Level was fab, and I'm still regretting chickening out of doing Greek (though lots of angst and incest in French A-level at least).
23rd-Jul-2005 06:41 pm (UTC)
Ah, decided against greek, after angst and woe, to do Russian instead.

As for the layout - it really does depend on the background, I think. For example... if you want the entries to line up on the right, left, centre, if you want to be able to see the background through them, etc.

So, if we focus on a background for now then see? What kind of colours? You'd like specific characters/faces then?
23rd-Jul-2005 06:56 pm (UTC)
One thing I do know is that I want the text to be clearly readable, which means something like what you see on the standard comment pages (certainly that font size), as opposed to LJs where the text is tiny and barely distinguishable from the background. I've got visual problems so I really notice that sort of thing.

Throw some pictures at us and we'll see? Probably something fairly neutral for the colours, it depends on what goes with the picture/s. elfbystarlight is currently on her way back to Cornwall, she'll no doubt have an opinion on this matter (she was, after all, hauled in as mod the second the idea occurred to me).

Can you do one of those LJs where the background is visible behind the text even on an unpaid account?

Your journal is very pretty, though as I said the font's a bit small and cramped for my tastes. The background colour is lovely.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:03 pm (UTC)
Yes, simply don't specify an actual colour, and it is transparent. That's what I did with mine. It's amazing what you can do with it, even if you haven't paid. We shall wait for her then, and I shall look for pictures. I am assuming that paintings are preferable to say, real peoples' portrayals of them? Or shall I simply look for pretty ones, either way.

It could be abstract metaphors, as well. For example Shakespeare's use of flowers as imagery. I can't think of any other things which are used, however, in other works. *throws ideas up in air*
23rd-Jul-2005 07:08 pm (UTC)
Whatever, but NO BRAD PITT. I personally would go for paintings rather than actors, yup.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:09 pm (UTC)
*was referring to that* *snicker* God that film was awful.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:11 pm (UTC)
Goodness, you're right about the transparency. How do I get pictures to stay still rather than scroll around? Could you do anything with epistolarynovel, do you think?
23rd-Jul-2005 07:17 pm (UTC)
Let's see.. *thinks* Which System are you using to modify it all? Because I use the override codes, you see, and therefore am using the HTML. *points to her static picture in her lj* I could do you up the code, perhaps. May take a while, as I'd be basing it on the code of mine and editing where things are different.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:18 pm (UTC)
Also, another thing, you have it tiled, and I think it wouldn't come out the Right side of the entries, unless you made an actual picture of two tiled together that way, and then I could set it to still.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:41 pm (UTC)
As I recall, one problem is simply that Photobucket resizes pictures past a certain size, and my MSN Groups thing stopped working, so I just gave up and tiled it. The original was more or less full screen size as I recall, though I've only got a 14" screen.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:43 pm (UTC)
It's not the actual dimensions of the thing which Photobucket works on, but the size of the actual file. Compressed, and it would work. Don't know what my screen is, actually, although I think it's normal.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:21 pm (UTC)
Hiya :) If you're happy to do this, I'm happy to leave it to you to sort the details. I'm a little more computer literate than elettatia but I haven't done a specific LJ layout before, so anyone willing to pitch in is welcome! :)
23rd-Jul-2005 08:25 pm (UTC)
I'm happy to do it, all I need is the specifics. Because you can do so much more in the overrides, I'll probably do that. Not Incredibly computer literate, but I'm sure I could make something acceptable.

But first, we need a background, whose colours dictate the rest. What would you suggest?
23rd-Jul-2005 06:44 pm (UTC)
On a completely random and other point, am I allowed to find it amusing that there are about 27,700 entries in Google for "Homosexual subtext" ? :P
23rd-Jul-2005 07:04 pm (UTC)
very very amusing..... and makes sense, too because!
The homosexual community is used to looking for the subtext in order to see images of self portrayed in media (including literary media) so will have much to say on the subject of subtext.

XP
23rd-Jul-2005 07:07 pm (UTC)
I know I have. :P Yay for often creating finding the deeper meanings of sometimes flat characters!
23rd-Jul-2005 07:26 pm (UTC)
Including the shite that is Carmilla (see my latest post) the vampire novella. I mean, really, I write better slash than LeFanu.
23rd-Jul-2005 07:40 pm (UTC) - Making new comment thread for pictures

The Two Waltzers - Toulouse-Lautrec


Le Sommeil - Gustave Courbet


Women Friends - Gustav Klimt

That's what Gettyimages.com has offered so far as to paintings. I'm going to look a bit more for some male couples.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:26 pm (UTC) - Re: Making new comment thread for pictures
I am currently very pro-The Two Waltzers by Toulouse-Lautrec!!

But bring on the boyses! (I love the boyses, even the tricksy boyses)
23rd-Jul-2005 08:28 pm (UTC) - Re: Making new comment thread for pictures
23rd-Jul-2005 08:43 pm (UTC) - Re: Making new comment thread for pictures
*cries* Not coming up with anything good for male couples! Could you help me by suggesting things to search for?
23rd-Jul-2005 08:44 pm (UTC) - Re: Making new comment thread for pictures
23rd-Jul-2005 08:49 pm (UTC)
Is that meant to be ultra-sheer Mormon undergarments? *stares in fascination*

It's dark, but possibly there's a version of this around somewhere which might yield some results?
23rd-Jul-2005 08:51 pm (UTC)
Bugger HTML. Let's try again.
23rd-Jul-2005 09:01 pm (UTC)
Once again - that would be hotlinking. *waggles finger* Do try and link to the page, and not the particular picture.

It could be lightened up, for layout purposes: it seems to have been painted dark.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:55 pm (UTC)
You forgot to finish off that link, Plus it was hotlinking. But, I've seen it on my search - I'll find a lighter one now
23rd-Jul-2005 08:32 pm (UTC)
I'm still pining after something classical, but so far I like the T-L the best as well. You can't tell whether it's two women or whether one's a man in drag, and either way it's subversive, and this is cool. We'd end up with shades of red for the colour scheme, I imagine.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:46 pm (UTC)
I am looking, but it's difficult. *whine* I like the T-L best myself too, however Klimt's faces are nice. Ah well.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:48 pm (UTC)
The faces are fine, it's his torsos that disturb me.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:51 pm (UTC)
yes, but, we don't necessarily need to use the entire picture, if we make a selection-esque type.
23rd-Jul-2005 08:48 pm (UTC)
I'm quite fond of the Le Sommeil, of these posted options - I vote we make a post wherein people can offer images, then another as a poll to see which are preferred. Thoughts?
23rd-Jul-2005 08:50 pm (UTC)
Good plan. *salutes*
23rd-Jul-2005 08:52 pm (UTC)
Once we've rounded up a few more, yup. Anyone got a paid account?
23rd-Jul-2005 09:03 pm (UTC)
Me :D
23rd-Jul-2005 08:56 pm (UTC)
http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/000Free/002Contemporary/001Durand/source/18.html

Contemporary Achilles/Patroclus - also reddy, which goes with the T-L
23rd-Jul-2005 08:58 pm (UTC)
23rd-Jul-2005 08:59 pm (UTC)
I'm starting to look under other obvious ones like "Goblin Market", which has yielded this so far:


Dante Gabriel Rossetti, "Goblin Market"
23rd-Jul-2005 09:03 pm (UTC)
Don't you love perfectly self explanatory titles?

I really like that one though
23rd-Jul-2005 09:08 pm (UTC)
Does anyone else find it alarming that this very incestuous-looking picture was done by the poet's brother?
23rd-Jul-2005 09:10 pm (UTC)
Not particularly - it does tend to crop up in those poetically inclined.
23rd-Jul-2005 09:41 pm (UTC)
Could I swipe one of those other GQP icons for my own use, by the way?
24th-Jul-2005 12:45 am (UTC) - about tagging entries...
I'm not 100% sure how it works (I tend to lurk in communities, rather than post much), but I think new tags can only be set by moderators, other posters have to choose from existing ones - I tried to tag my entry with "braddon" but it doesn't seem to want to let me. If this is the case, is there a procedure for alerting moderators to the need for a new tag?
24th-Jul-2005 12:46 pm (UTC)
Bless you for bothering. Bah, what a nuisance. I'll try to keep up with the tagging anyway, I've got a serious interest in queer lit and these extracts are going to be useful to me. I'll see if I can preset some more tags, meanwhile.
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